Judge not buying Google’s epic claims of a “terrifying world of chaos.”

Epic hopes the court will approve several previously outlined measures that Google says are overblown and “harm privacy, security, and the overall consumer experience.” So all eyes are on Judge James Donato, who heard testimony from both sides and gave some clues as to his position.

For starters, while Donato said some of Epic’s solutions are “open-ended and too vague,” Google will have to make changes it doesn’t like, but perhaps not as many as Epic hopes. “I want to be clear: Google, as an illegal monopoly, will have to pay certain penalties,” Donato said during the hearing. “This case is about overall ability to compete. I’m not looking for relief that will lend a helping hand only to Epic. What we do is level the playing field and raise barriers.”

Donato also took issue with what he said was Google’s attempt to show a “horrific world of chaos” if the proposed countermeasures were implemented in app store markets. “I just don’t buy it,” Donato said, adding: “We’ll be treading new ground for a while. It’s simply a consequence of breaking antitrust laws – we have to do things differently.”

The judge also did not agree with Google’s argument that the proposed changes were unfavorable for consumers and businesses. “Jumping up and down and saying that the new world will be a world that no one will want to live in is baseless,” Donato said.

In the lead-up to Thursday’s hearing, Epic submitted a 16-page document containing suggested remedies it says Google must take against its company in light of the antitrust ruling, including prohibiting Google from blocking alternative app stores and billing systems or sharing revenue with Google Play with operators or phone manufacturers. Google appealed the ruling, arguing that the suggested remedies were unnecessary due to changes to the Play Store that had already been implemented in December to settle a separate $700 million monopoly lawsuit – a case that Donato also oversees.

Google and Epic are expected to present final arguments in August, and Donato expects to “promptly” impose penalties shortly thereafter.