In the United States, some consumers still use Kaspersky antivirus, although the country’s government has banned its use. That’s according to TechCrunch, which spoke to several users and found out how they get around the ban.

Earlier this year, the Biden administration banned the sale of the Russian-made cybersecurity solution, citing privacy concerns. The government says it has reason to believe that the Russian state is using the product to siphon sensitive information from American citizens and spy on them. He didn’t really confirm these claims, but he still forced the company out of the country.