Here are the podcasts Trump and Harris did

Former President Donald Trump Friday’s interview with Joe Rogan, the most popular podcast host in the country, underscores a trend this election cycle in which presidential candidates are using podcasts to focus on target audiences.

During this stripped-down campaign – which remains tied as election day approaches – some traditional giants of journalism are being pushed aside. The growing popularity of podcasts and their ability to help candidates in tight races target a specific portion of the electorate is a major reason why. Since 2016, the number of podcast listeners has nearly doubled.

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Trump, for example, has turned down interviews with 60 Minutes and other major news outlets in favor of male-dominated influencers such as Adin Ross and Logan Paul. The former president has largely stuck to what he considers a friendly space with direct access to his core audience.

Vice President Kamala HarrisMeanwhile, she appeared on Alex Cooper’s “Call Her Daddy,” the most popular podcast for women, and was interviewed on Super Bowl champion Shannon Sharp’s “Club Shay Shay” podcast, which airs Monday. Harris’ campaign was in talks with Rogan about an interview, but reports say it didn’t work out.

A USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll found that most voters had not yet heard Trump or Harris on a podcast, but those who did said they were more likely to vote for Trump.

Trump podcast interview

Here’s a list of podcasts Trump has appeared on this election cycle. According to Forbesthey collectively have over 50 million views.

• “Six Feet Under” with wrestler Mark Calaway

• “Egregious” with comedian Andrew Schultz

• “Bussin with the Boys” Barstool Sports with former NFL football players Will Compton and Taylor Lewan.

• “Last Weekend” with Theo Von

• Adin Ross is a streamer who was banned from Twitch for offensive comments.

• “The Lex Friedman Podcast”

• “Full Send Podcast” with Nelk Boys

• “The Dan Bongino Show”

• “PBD Podcast” with Patrick Bet-David

• “Impulsive” with Logan Paul

• “Everything in the Podcast” with Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks and David Friedberg

• “The Shawn Ryan Show”

Harris Podcast Interview

Here are the podcasts and popular radio shows Harris has been interviewed on:

• “Call Her Daddy” with Alex Cooper. Call Her Daddy is the most popular podcast for women. In the roughly 40-minute interview, Harris spoke about the tenacity required of a woman running for public office, the tenacity her mother instilled in her and the importance of reproductive rights in this election.

• “All the Smoke” with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson

• “The Howard Stern Show”

• “Discovering Us” with Brené Brown

• “The Breakfast Club” with Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarius and DJ Envy

• “The Shay Shay Club” with Shannon Sharp