Donald Trump’s guests at Joe Rogan’s event

In his first appearance on the wildly popular Joe Rogan Experience podcast, former president and 2024 Republican candidate Donald Trump addressed cultural and political issues that he had addressed in the past.

He noted that there would not have been a war in Ukraine if he had been president; complained that moderators didn’t fact-check Kamala Harris enough during their only debate; and once again reinforced his thoughts that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen from him.

At one point in the three-hour conversation, Joe Rogan asked Trump to explain in more detail how the election was stolen, something he has continued to falsely insist over the past four years. The former president responded at length and incoherently, pointing out that some changes to election laws had not been properly approved.

“This election was so unfair, it was the most unfair election,” Trump said when Rogan asked for specific examples.

“Well, let’s start, let’s start with the highest and lightest. They had to get legislative approval for what they did, but in many cases they didn’t. They didn’t get it,” he said when the podcast host asked again, “What things?”

“Anything,” Trump continued, to which Rogan asked, “Legislative approval?”

“Like for extending voting, for early voting. All different things. By law, they had to receive legislative approval,” the presidential candidate said. “You don’t have to go any further than that. If you look at Wisconsin, they have pretty much admitted that the election was rigged, robbed, and stolen. In some places they did not allow access to ballots because the ballots were not signed. They weren’t originals. They were… We could go deeper into this. We could go to a vote or a general vote. I’ll tell you another way.”

When Rogan asked him if he would ever produce that evidence, he replied, “Uh-huh.” During the call, Trump appeared to acknowledge that he lost the 2020 election before retracting his words and correcting himself.

“I think I lost… I didn’t lose, but they say I lost, Joe,” he said. “They say I lost by 22,000 votes, which is about a tenth of a percent less. It’s a tiny little thing – 22,000 votes spread out over the entire period.”

Trump is keen to get young people to vote, and the interview on Rogan’s show has become a major prize for the candidates, as the show, which recently launched and was exclusive to Spotify, is now available on other platforms, including Apple Podcasts and YouTube. Vice President Kamala Harris is also trying to increase her appeal to male voters, and Rogan’s interview could certainly help since the weekly show’s audience is 81 percent male, with more than 50 percent under 35. according to a YouGov poll.

In August, Rogan made comments that were widely interpreted as support for independent presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr. A MAGA backlash followed his comments, and Trump quickly added to the pile, seeking to encourage die-hard martial arts fans to speak out against Rogan in person when he wrote on his platform Truth Social“It will be interesting to see how loudly Joe Rogan gets booed the next time he steps into a UFC ring. MAGA2024.”

Rogan later clarified that his comments did not equal approval Kennedy, who dropped out of the race shortly after the altercation. Kennedy supported Trump’s candidacy for president.

Before Rogan, Trump appeared on podcasts such as This week with Theo Vaughn And Full shipment. Meanwhile, Harris visited Call her dad podcast, as well as Howard Stern’s Sirius XM show. The podcast appearances come as the campaign draws to a close, signaling a new strategy for both candidates’ unconventional media interviews. Polls show that these appearances may not have had the impact their teams had hoped for, as less than 30 percent of respondents over 18 had heard guest spots from either candidate on podcasts.

In addition to hosting his podcast, Rogan provides commentary for the Ultimate Fighting Championship, a mixed martial arts promotion company. Trump also has close ties to the organization, as he considers Dana White a close friend. White also spoke about Trump at the Republican National Convention.